The Joycelyn Ignites Podcast

Episode 40: Me and Mister: A Twisted Conversation

Joycelyn L. Lewis

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This is the continuation of a story that began in Episode 1: I Met Mister And It Wasn’t from The Color Purple

In this follow-up episode, I reflect on a conversation with a guest who initially came to discuss leadership and the role of men in faith—but it didn’t take long before deeper issues started to surface. What was supposed to be an uplifting dialogue quickly turned into a twisted exchange filled with gaslighting, racial deflection, and spiritual distortion.

He wasn’t just invited—he asked to be here.
He completed the form and positioned himself as someone ready to have a soul-filled, igniting, awaken-the-warrior-within conversation.

But from co-opting Dr. King’s I Have a Dream speech
to explaining racism through the reticular activation system,
it became clear:
He didn’t come to ignite—he came to interrupt.
He didn’t come to uplift—he came to twist.

I chose not to air the entire recording, but I did choose to learn from it.
 And now, I’m speaking back in this episode.

You know, there are moments when someone catches you off guard—when the conversation takes a turn, and you find yourself holding your breath instead of saying what you really wanted to say.

This was one of those moments.

But just because I didn’t say it then, doesn’t mean I won’t say it now.

Sometimes, the most powerful responses come after the fact—when the Spirit has had time to speak, when the truth has settled, and when the fire rises again.

So today, I’m saying what needed to be said.
 Not out of anger, but out of clarity.
 Not for debate, but for correction.

Because silence doesn’t mean surrender.
 And the Word will always correct what Mister twisted.


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